Dutch prosecutor orders opening of Swiss safe hired by MH17 detective
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Last Wednesday a safe in a Swiss bank was openen onrequest of the Dutch prosecutor. The safe was hired by German private detective Resch. Resch rewarded 47 millions Euro to a person who gave Resch information on the downing of MH17.
1. 30 million US$ for leads to perpetrators
2. 17 million US$ for leads about attempts at cover-ups from states or state organisations (second Snowden)
German magazine Capital reported at June 6 about the opening of the safe here.
The Netherlands largest newspaper Telegraaf published the story today. (free article here). Full article on Blendle (paid)
The safe was opened by Swiss authorities last Wednesday. The content is not known yet to the Dutch prosecutor. Swiss judge has to decide what information can be handed over the the Dutch authorities. It is not known what the desicion is made.
The reason the Dutch prosecutor gave for the order to open the safe was that the persons who are responsible for downing MH17 could have been attracted by the reward. So information about their names might be in the safe.
However himself told that various governments would have big problems when the truth about MH17 would came out.
At March 15 2016 German police raided the house of Resch. What was found was not made public by the German police however the Dutch prosecutor stated they found a note for hiring the Swiss safe. That note was the lead for opening the safe.
Details on the raid here.
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The actions of the authorities in the “case Resch” are proof enough that he actually has important informations.
Resch stands with his back to the wall. He is pressured by the prosecutor, has a non-disclosure-agreement with his client and is afraid of the cover-up specialists.
He actually fears for his life and that of his family.
Nevertheless Resch yields some hints to the cover-up in his book and in interviews.
On May 20/2016 Resch gave an Interview to a German radiostation. That was BEFORE his safe in a Swiss bank was openened :
http://www.mdr.de/mediathek/podcasts/fernsehen/audiogalerie106_zc-85522809_zs-efe5aab1.html
Here is a translation of the most interesting parts :
0’25: You say “MH17”, I would say “MH17 cover-up”. That would be the correct term.
5’50: I say only one thing: If this deposit box will be opened, it will be very uncomfortable for someone. I know that. Very uncomfortable.
(Note : Resch refers not necessarily to MH17)
6’00: Question : “Do you know who is behind the shooting?”
These are two different things – who has covered it up and who shot it. I know who covered up, that it does not go public. All people want to know it, all are interested, but in the end nobody really wants to know it.
“However, I would like to know”
Yes, haha, good – but you would have little use for it.
“Pity. Would it be perilous for you to say?”
So, let’s say this: The highest existing crime is war crime, there is nothing higher.
“And it is under investigation for war crime ?”
They investigate in that direction. I am not a defendant, I am called as a witness. If the audience does not know : As a witness you have obligation to testify. So, you will be threatened with jail or with a fine, with everything you will be threatened.
And I also know, next month I am summoned to the BKA and the Attorney General will also be there. My lawyer has already spoken to him and told him that I will not say anything.
But, I have spoken with my family. Actually I have something and they want to know it. Rightful, without question, for that they are paid, for that they exist. But the BKA can’t do anything with my information, because that will be political. This is absolutely political and not with …
Then we talked and my wife said to me: “Sepp, you have to decide how you see it and what you will do. But I tell you one thing: If anything happens to my son, then you will have hell on earth.”
I am clever enough that I don´t want to compromise me and don´t want to jeopardize my son and my wife… 298 people are dead. This is bad enough. But there is no need to add two or three more. That does not make sense. Not to talk about what would happen if the public would be informed. A lot of things would happen.
8’09: Question : “How is it, would you say it is better for us, we do not know?”
For my part I would like to say : I would prefer not to know what I´ve heard.
Of cause the public will ask, why did you speak about it, why did you write it down.
It’s simple: I as a human being want to declare something. To the people, the people behind this cover-up : I WILL SAY NOTHING.
8’55: Question : “That´s it ? You come to a talkshow to tell the cover-up specialists ´I keep my mouth shut`?
I keep my mouth shut, because I will not put someone in danger, me included.
I want to prevent the media from writing something like “Mr. Resch has somehow said something”.
I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING !
And if the state forces me that I have to make the decision that I get a fine for something, then I have to say : I will pay any sum X, because my family is worth the sum X.
Liane,
Thanks so much for taking your time to translate and write this down. Highly interesting. Resch must know precisely what happened. We can only speculate about who it was that provided him with the information. Will the public ever find out…?
he (let) wrote a book…gaves a lot of interviews.
so he talked already too much, for what – protection?
and now likes to remain silent, his whole story looks strange to me.
It’s just human – to feel an urge to share a secret with others, especially when the secret is overwhelming. Therefore, Resch gave some hints in his book and earlier interviews. Since then he has received threats, which forced him to keep silence.
Many thanks to Liane for translation.
I dont buy it. he is working since 30 years as PI. he annouced closing his business, obviously because of that leak, no customers will ever assign him again. so it was calculated, but for what purpose, if he stopped in the middle of “talking”. he called almost for the police by doing it that way. My first thought was, he like to be “forced” to talk. I am following his steps from the beginning and I am very confused.
also remarkable, look at his arguments, he said he knows things, started to point in some directions and added he is bound to NDA by asssignment. nevertheless he stated that for his protection, records are done and prepared for disclosure by notary in germany, if things go south…
but there is a big flaw in his thinking, there are angry people, who like a disclosure and the easiest way is to ki..ll resch.
lets play the possibilities:
a person or a group liked to know who did and who covered, it can be a country or a company, issurance company, by example.
so there is the bounty, go and earn it – straight and clear. but and after the paying only loudy silence…maybe bc of running investigation?
second front, it was a honeypot, a setup by a group who knows what happened, even that group is behind the deed.
so resch was played. and he knows it and is angry….
and my last thought, resch played the whole thing. bc of money, publicity or only bad character.
I cant say which one is more likely, all of them are at the moment possible. but I’ cursious which one is true.
and there is a 4. option, resch is the honeypot….
jayC – to your „possibilities“ :
If Resch was played or be himself the „honeypot“ he would know this.
He is running his business on a high level for a long time. Not easy to fool him.
But none of his remarks points in this direction.
Resch is convinced that he found out the truth and that the proof for it was provided to his client.
Remember Resch stated in his book : „The informant gave the client documents”.
And it seems the JIT believe the same. JIT is on the hunt for these proofs.
Imagine Reschs findings contradict the JIT narrative. Then the JIT could not go public with their version until they have neutralized the evidence of Reschs client.
But, be hopeful, may be the JIT really tries to find out the truth…
If Ukraine indeed is responsible for downing of MH17, JIT will never make this public.
First because Ukraine is part of JIT and has a veto. More important this will have serious geo-political consequences. The Western public had been feed from day one with the narrative of “BUK missile launched from area under control of separatists”.
If JIT finds evidence Ukraine was responsible, it will never ever be made public.
Remember the Itavia DC9 shot down. Cause and who was responsible never was made known to the public.
I agree with you, Marcel.
The JIT has maneuvered itself in a quandary.
They promised to provide the exact launch location and the type of missile.
IF Ukraine is the culprit, the launch location can not be Snizhne.
So, if Ukraine is the culprit they have the choice to lie about the launch location or to say they couldn´t establish the launch location.
Same with the type of missile. For a solid court case they have to proof that Ukraine didn´t have that type of missile on July 17.
For a solid court case the JIT must prove irrefutably that the bow-ties are indeed bow-ties and that they were not planted.
Important in this context is the fact that Australia has never declared the shooting an “act of terror”.
MH17 is under investigation for war crimes but not for a terrorist act. WHY ?
I fear non on of the involved states is really interested in revealing what happened. Likely because all parties are to blame and consequences are too big.
I fear the public will never know the truth, or maybe after 30 years when the secret files can be opened.
With all the available technology it should be easy to pinpoint the location of the BUK and to whom it belonged to.
and there is not even one soul in the JIT with snowden-complex?
> resch was played…
but when could he know this? I cant differ from a legit bounty and a setup bounty. do you think resch could know, where the money or client came from?
after paying, neither the client reveals hmiself nor the information. at this moment resch could recognize his role in such setup, maybe this explains resch’ steps and leaks.
secondly, dont forget, the main bounty was called off, after paying the small one and resch stated himself, he dont know how much money goes for that documents.
>if he is the honeypot, so he have to know,
of course, its obvious. I liked to complete the number of possibilities.
and I liked to complete the second scenario, if it was a setup – checking if someone knew anything – so in the end they need a closing step (even more as political pressure on UE/JIT/NL).
it is likely, that the paying and the recorded information by resch was a setup, too. assuming they choose germany by purpose, it is likely, that some secret services created second scenario on such large scale – for a lot of reasons.
I am sure, that the 17 mio paying put a lot of pressure on the investigation.
if I follow your last thoughts, Diane, so resch is in danger.
the only way is to publish his findings/records. but he dont do it.
On 15 June, 2015, Capital.de reported that Wifka (Resch’ investigation firm) successfully completed the case to find an informant on MH17:
http://www.capital.de/themen/informant-zu-mh-17-packt-aus-4460.html
Capital.de quoted Resch as saying: “Ich rechne damit, dass sehr bald etwas passieren wird. Wer so fiel Geld fuer Informationen zahlt, der behaelt sie nicht fuer sich.” The meaning: “I believe that something will happen very soon. The one who paid so much money for the information won’t keep it for himself.”
Next day, 16 June, 2015, Spiegel.de also reported on the Wifka case. Amazingly, Resch told Spiegel a different thing if compared to his quote in Capital. Resch told Spiegel: “Ich habe einen Wunsch: Die Auftraggeber bringen die Sache an die Oeffentlichkeit. Ich habe persoenlich aber die Befuerchtung, dass das intern verarbeitet wird.” The meaning: “I would like the clients to make the case public. But, personally, I fear that things will be dealt internally.”
It is also interesting that Capital.de, in their 15 June, 2015 article, quoted Resch’ colleague in Wifka who said that they, in Wifka, initially underestimated “the political dimension” of the case.
It is likely that even in June 2015 they still underestimated the political dimension of the case.
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/mh17-informant-soll-sich-bei-detektiv-josef-resch-gemeldet-haben-a-1039035.html
The meaning of Russian BUKs in Donetsk could have been to force Ukraine to stop civil aviation. But then they certainly would have lost Donetsk. Therefore, at that time the alleged Russian BUK could have been a narrative of Ukraine to prevent an invasion of Russian BUKs in the near future which definitely would eliminate the Ukrainian airforce above Donetsk completely.
At that time Russian BUKs in Donetsk were uncertain. But it definitely would have scared them a lot. They must have thought about how to prevent an invasion of Russian BUKs into Donetsk. This part of the scenario needs not to be proven; we have a motive for the downing of the MH17.
The possibility of Russian BUKs in Donetsk scared Ukraine and NATO. Then the scenario is: instead of stopping civil aviation immediately, Ukraine first downed the MH17 as a false flag after which the US instantly announced sanctions against Russia. This was the only way to prevent an invasion of Russian BUKs into Donetsk. And so it happened, there was no invasion of Russian BUKs after the downing of the MH17.
Has the MH17 been the ritual sacrifice of a terrified Ukrainian army and an immoral NATO? But that’s the wrong question. The question is, if no passenger plane was shot down would Donetsk have been invaded by an army of Russian BUKs? This is very likely, so the strategy worked excellently.
If true, this scenario must have been agreed with NATO. And now we come somewhere, there might be written evidence on the Internet, which might be the proof of Resch. Maybe NATO ordered the carefully avoidance of American passengers. It is well known the US had an aversion against Malaysia and so they decided to sacrifice the always willing Dutch. Not that we have facts, but we have a constellation of subliminal feelings which all point into the same direction.
Basic Dimension wrote : „If true, this scenario must have been agreed with NATO. Not that we have facts, but we have a constellation of subliminal feelings which all point into the same direction.“
We know that NATO Operation GLADIO existed and for what purpose.
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Gladiodocs.pdf
GLADIO has in fact carried out a string of false flag terror attacks. The recruit soldiers of the secret GLADIO army included right-wing extremists.
The American CIA and the British secret service MI6 were deeply involved in GLADIO.
Remember the part in Reschs book where he mentioned that the MI6 was very interested in his investigation. Resch was invited to London but considered it a trap. He will have had his reasons.
Based on facts nobody should call a secret NATO operation „Ukraine“ CT.
That would explain why Resch fears for his life and why he would prefer to know nothing about it.
Your version of GLADIO is based on some old Soviet disinformation campaign.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Army_Field_Manual_30-31B
As for believing everything “General Gianadelio Maletti” claims on CIA involvement, I’d be skeptical as he pursuits his own agenda. It was not uncommon for top officials in Italy at the time to believe and claim all kinds of conspiratorial things (and they even might have been true, not denying it here). They actually still often do 🙂 But it’s a bit of context not present in blogs and news fragments people use to string their theories together.
Resolution of European Parliament pertaining to NATO/CIA organisation Gladio :
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/European_Parliament_resolution_on_Gladio
Is this Official Journal of the European Communities No. C 324 from December 24/1990 also „some old Soviet disinformation campaign“ ?
the ukraine never started a full scale air war against separatists.
and air support for ground troops need low flying machines, a lot of them went down by man pads. after the downing of mh17 they could have increase the pressure on sepas by air attacks, but I dont remember these. so they missed that window of opportunity, maybe the ukrainian army wasnt proper prepared for such a game changer.
I see, that the mh17 downing prevented a secret invasion and separation of luhanst and donesk like the krim scenario earlier happens. buks weren’t the big scary thing you’re drawing here.
„the ukraine never started a full scale air war against separatists.“
Please tell that the people whose homes were bombed and the relatives of the deceased.
Ukraine is undertaking a bloody war against their own people. And the only reason that they have not started a “full scale air war” is that they don´t have the means.
But nowadays it seems to be acceptable to kill those who oppose a coup.
Liane, I got no intentions to upset you. I played only the scenarios, due lack of facts in mh17 matter.
and someone like resch let me losing the faith in humans.
– If the downing of the MH17 was a silly error of judgment, would you spend millions of dollars to find that poor man? No, only if the downing was a conspiracy you would be interested. So they think it was a complot.
– There is no secret service in the world which believed in stupid errors of drunken separatists without any education. From the first moment they all thought it might have been a false flag. That’s why – in circular reasoning – only secret services could have offered the money. And it must have been a country because of the vast amount of money. And it must have been the most harmed and possibly unjustified condemned nation. So the client of Resch was Russia.
– If you were a very experienced detective, would you keep all your secrets in the safe of your notary? Why, for what reason? Of course not, job done, case closed, material into the shredder.
– Now, if you saved the information for what reason, would you be so stupid to tell the whole world where it could be found? No, of course not. So, Resch set a trap with the Russians to provoke parties to get the information. Not to arrest the perpetrators, but to hide the evidence under the biggest stone. Only very nervous secret services which had something to hide would go after the evidence. I think it was the German secret service. But then they saw their mistake and in the rebound they found JIT willing to claim the notarial evidence as part of the judicial investigation.
– But first JIT would downplay the whole matter and proclaim the perpetrators could just have made a silly error:
[Intentional or not? An important question for the criminal investigation is whether a missile can be launched unintentionally. Did anyone accidentally push a button which caused the missile to be launched? Or can this only be done by means of a conscious act? And how exactly does the weapon system select its target?]
Well, there is a vast amount of logical evidence the downing of the MH17 was not unintentional. And if so for the perpetrators, it must have been a false flag with the intention on the other side, but it definitely has been intentional. That’s my opinion.
If the judge gives the alleged information from Resch to JIT it would be contaminated immediately, since JIT cannot be seen as an objective authority. This means whatever JIT concludes about the finds we cannot be sure it will be true.
if it was a silly error, why not use it as political pressure on russians or to delay any recompensation demands from ukraina and malaysia air…..
client russia – hmmm – I support this, also because germany was chosen. but, it can be also a decoy setup from the russians. so u see, we dont have enough facts to sure.
huge money – inssurance companies or some rich people are also on the table.
buk is not a fire and forget weapon, if we both assume, it was a buk.
u need to “light” the target with the radar the whole time, otherwise the buk is programmed to destroy himself. and a retargeting is not possible, as I know.
resch made enough statements to keep media and us interrested, but didnt help to find the truth. the only scenario without any risc, he developed the whole story with the bounty. look, the german newspaper “stern” dont buy it, even if he provided some paper about paying to him…..