Ukraine president Poroshenko suggests DSB will report MH17 was shot down by Russia supplied missile and crew
President of Ukraine Poroshenko sent a remarkable Tweet on Friday July 17 2015.
Around 15:00 Western European Time he sent the following text:
“The Netherlands finished its investigation into #MH17 disaster. The plane was shot down by a Russian missile launched by a Russian crew“. This text was also sent in a separate Tweet in Ukraine language.
Aroud 30 minutes later the Tweet was deleted.
The exact Tweet is shown below. The original URL of the deleted Tweet is .
He also wrote a statement on his page according hst-ukraine.com. That message has been deleted as well.
It is very remarkable this Tweet was sent. The Dutch Safety Board investigates the disaster and does not reveal anything untill the final report has been released. Also the task of the DSB is not to determine who did it. Only to determine what caused the crash of the aircraft.
Poroshenko also wrote a statement on his website. He writes : ” A highly technological weapon, with which the aircraft was shot could have come into hands of the terrorists only from Russia. It would not have happened without participation, without a direct order from the highest political and military leadership of the neighboring state.”
Will he be reprimanded by the official investigation?
And will Russian officials with their loads ob b…shit about a Su-25 ground attack plane shooting down the Boeing be reprimanded?
I remember how Poroshenko soon after the attack on Mh17 gave interviews with eyes running on the floor.
Now he is better prepared and his eyes less betrays lies.
Everyone who is searching for the truth about Mh17 should answer the question what made the holes in the boeing belly visible on the picture : http://imageshack.com/a/img909/8749/vHMwWs.jpg
On the MH17 wreck is recorded that it was shelling from outside. I see different types of missiles. The most important is the hole after the rocket, which penetrate boeing body from the bottom and exploded inside. The fact that boeing body was disrupted with the internal explosion is indisputable. I found a lot photographs, which confirms this.
“on the MH17 wrecks is recorded that is was shelling from outside”
And who was it that within days of the crash had decided to use military force to fire at the crash site that was dozens of kilometers from the military line of contact? Who shot the wreckage and remains of the victims with artillery? You know, making it too dangerous to go near to conduct an investigation and contaminating the site and wreckage?
This is a really tough question.
Lets see.
Could it have been the rebel militia firing straight up in the air to rein down fire upon themselves?
Could it have been really super long range Russian artillery?
Maybe it was space aliens?
Or maybe it was the Ukrainian government and military who rejected a local ceasefire to allow an international investgation and recovery effort to occur? The same Ukrainian government that prevented and hindered Malaysian and Dutch officials from travelling to Donetsk because they were to polite to cause an international incident and cross into the Donbass from Russia?
Andrew
I remember that the Ukrainian group of commandos was sent to the area of the wreckage with secret mission.
Well, the 25th Brigade certainly went by.
Here is their camp north of Shakhtarsk after they fought their way through the disaster site from Debaltseve.
48° 4’15.96″N, 38°31’50.75″E
Ahahaha! Its damage from collision.
AD Your answer is correct but incomplete.
The holes in the figure are after a collision with a rocket similar to a R27 rocket.
Short proof.
The first hole (left) in the outer wall is circular. The second hole in the inner wall is deformed. It was deformed together with the wall. The wall was deformed during the colision with the ground. From this it follows that that the hole was created before the collision with a ground it means in the air.
Dude you dont know what is R-27 missile and what damage it can doing.
First question – what warhead have R-27 missile?
AD:> Dude you dont know what is R-27 missile and what damage it can doing.
Bold theorem but not real.
AD:>First question – what warhead have R-27 missile?
Are you asking because you want to know or you just start eristic ?
I proved that the holes had to arise in the air. These are not traces of the rocket BUK, because this has a proximity fuse and explode several meters in front of goal. It had to be an air to air missile fired fairly close.Close enough so that the proximity fuse could not activate.
http://uainfo.org/blognews/1437135312-vina-rossii-prakticheski-dokazana-neoproverzhimye-uliki.html
This report uses informations and pictures which are nowhere else available in the public internet. These informations must come from JIT.
To summarize: MH17 was shot down by “Almaz-Antey” 9M317 BUK M1-2 . They found striking particles of that type of weapon and not from older BUK M1 in MH17 and bodies (pilot). BUK M1-2 and M2 are not used by Ukraine as they were build after separation of Ukraine from Russia in 1991. These striking particles are chemically different and other size. THe investigation team compared particles from all warheads of ukrainian army and found no same. But they bought an M2 wahrhead and it was identical. 9M317 can not be launched with M1 system. Obviously MH17 was shot down by russian weapon.
The article looks also on possible political consequences of these findings. Aou can use Google translate service to read it in other languages as russian, it’s quite understandable.
2doradcar305 // July 22, 2015 at 6:34 pm //
I proved that the holes had to arise in the air. These are not traces of the rocket BUK, because this has a proximity fuse and explode several meters in front of goal.
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There is no lower limit for detonate point distance, only highest limit. So Buk missile can explode in 1-2 or more meters from target. Usually it higher because errors to high, but B777 fuselage some wider then fighter. BTW 9M38M1 missile have even mode of detonation without measure range to target.
It had to be an air to air missile fired fairly close.
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What air to air missile you talking about?
Close enough so that the proximity fuse could not activate.
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Man, you so funny! 9M38M1 missile have even contact fuse for detonate from firect impact to target, what the hell is CLOSE you talking about?
AD:> 9M38M1 missile have even contact fuse for detonate from firect impact to target
Are you suggesting that these holes in the belly of a Boeing are after Buk missile?
If so that this is progress in your thinking. You started from damage by collision (on the ground?)
It was not BUK. Traces of shrapnel from Buka are, for example, on the coverof the left engine.See http://mm.salon24.pl/le/wy/lewysilnikoslona2-jpg-fc6ba60b52,2,0.jpg
BUK exploded outside of the Boeing. The missile which left holes in the belly exploded inside Boeing.
Belly dont have any damage from strike elements.
Engine ring also dont have damage from strike elements.
Dixi.
AD:” Belly dont have any damage from strike elements.”
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Really? This means that you can not explain the origin of these holes about which I asked.Even the origin of the holes on the engine ring is black magic for you.